Comments on: New: Dalmore “Sirius” (@£10,000/bottle!) http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/ Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:47:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tasting Notes: The Dalmore 12 Single Malt Scotch | Whisky Party http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-11692 Tasting Notes: The Dalmore 12 Single Malt Scotch | Whisky Party Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:25:42 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-11692 [...] was recently replaced by the slightly more expensive Gran Reserva and the uber-expensive Dalmore Sirius.  It also doesn’t hurt that Richard Paterson, the Master Blender for Whyte and MacKay, is [...] [...] was recently replaced by the slightly more expensive Gran Reserva and the uber-expensive Dalmore Sirius.  It also doesn’t hurt that Richard Paterson, the Master Blender for Whyte and MacKay, is [...]

]]> By: Best in Blog: Dalmore Sirius and Jim Murray's Whisky Bible | Whisky Party http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-11054 Best in Blog: Dalmore Sirius and Jim Murray's Whisky Bible | Whisky Party Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:58:29 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-11054 [...] here in the states.  Anyway, you can read all the uber-expensive details at Whisky for Everyone, What Does John Know, Edinburgh Whisky, and of course Richard Paterson has some [...] [...] here in the states.  Anyway, you can read all the uber-expensive details at Whisky for Everyone, What Does John Know, Edinburgh Whisky, and of course Richard Paterson has some [...]

]]> By: Texas http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-11044 Texas Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:46:19 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-11044 Considering it's age, this makes a whole lot more sense than the Diageo Manager's Series pricing. Considering it’s age, this makes a whole lot more sense than the Diageo Manager’s Series pricing.

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-11015 John Hansell Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:06:40 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-11015 Good point Oliver. They might still be holding some for a later bottling. Good point Oliver. They might still be holding some for a later bottling.

]]> By: Oliver Klimek http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10975 Oliver Klimek Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:44:37 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10975 My guess would be that Dalmore didn't bottle all of the cask's content. Perhaps they felt that the whisky was capable to mature even longer. 17 years to go for a Dalmore 75. And perhaps there will even be a little left for the Dalwonka 100 My guess would be that Dalmore didn’t bottle all of the cask’s content. Perhaps they felt that the whisky was capable to mature even longer. 17 years to go for a Dalmore 75. And perhaps there will even be a little left for the Dalwonka 100

]]> By: Andy http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10954 Andy Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:23:19 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10954 Mr Lamond is bang on the money - I've also been lucky enough to try Mr Patersons top end bottlings and each has been stunning - The Dalmore remains an exceptional malt, especially when aged well. I too loath the thought of 'collecting' whisky, but don't forget the last bottle of 62 year old Dalmore was bought for 30 odd grand and drank on the spot by the buyer and his friends - or so the story goes! Mr Lamond is bang on the money – I’ve also been lucky enough to try Mr Patersons top end bottlings and each has been stunning – The Dalmore remains an exceptional malt, especially when aged well.

I too loath the thought of ‘collecting’ whisky, but don’t forget the last bottle of 62 year old Dalmore was bought for 30 odd grand and drank on the spot by the buyer and his friends – or so the story goes!

]]> By: Steffen Bräuner http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10950 Steffen Bräuner Tue, 06 Oct 2009 03:48:23 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10950 You can't compare this to Diageo Dalmore don't have thousands of similar cask (I guess!) It aged for longer It is therefore rare and hard to reproduce. Apart from the price this is also inaccesible to me due the bottle numbers It's great marketing and I bet quite a few of these will be used at tastings Macdeffe You can’t compare this to Diageo
Dalmore don’t have thousands of similar cask (I guess!)
It aged for longer
It is therefore rare and hard to reproduce. Apart from the price this is also inaccesible to me due the bottle numbers
It’s great marketing and I bet quite a few of these will be used at tastings

Macdeffe

]]> By: B.J. Reed http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10937 B.J. Reed Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:47:14 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10937 I do hear that Albertson's Scotch Whisky is talking about moving from plastic to glass and increasing the bottle to $20 :0) I do hear that Albertson’s Scotch Whisky is talking about moving from plastic to glass and increasing the bottle to $20 :0)

]]> By: two-bit cowboy http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10934 two-bit cowboy Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:35:27 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10934 I really hate it that you're feeling guilty, John. I would be remiss if I didn't offer to relieve you of some of that guilt. You've got my address. That aside, @Sku ... I'm with you on this not being comparable to Diageo. I really hate it that you’re feeling guilty, John.

I would be remiss if I didn’t offer to relieve you of some of that guilt. You’ve got my address.

That aside, @Sku … I’m with you on this not being comparable to Diageo.

]]> By: Josh http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10932 Josh Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:23:55 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10932 Wow. Yet another astronomically priced whisky that most mortals will never drink. Wonderful. I guess Vijay Mallya has to come up with some way to make his acquisition of Whyte & Mackay pay off... Wow. Yet another astronomically priced whisky that most mortals will never drink. Wonderful.

I guess Vijay Mallya has to come up with some way to make his acquisition of Whyte & Mackay pay off…

]]> By: Bruichladdict http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10930 Bruichladdict Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:21:28 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10930 The Balvenie produced a 50 yo cask which yielded 85 bottles. I don't think any of the Dalmore cask went into a blend...probably being held back to limit supply and generate a buzz. This is part of the Dalmore strategy: to be more like it's master distiller and HAM it up as much as possible. The Balvenie produced a 50 yo cask which yielded 85 bottles. I don’t think any of the Dalmore cask went into a blend…probably being held back to limit supply and generate a buzz. This is part of the Dalmore strategy: to be more like it’s master distiller and HAM it up as much as possible.

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10929 John Hansell Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:55:50 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10929 bgulien, at this age, there might be very little in the cask. The rest could have been use for other blends, promotional purposes, etc. Yes, most whiskies beyond 30-40 start going downhill. But some distilleries with a good pedigree (Dalmore is one of those), if carefully maintained and aged in a good cask, can still taste great at 50. Dalmore is one of those distilleries. bgulien, at this age, there might be very little in the cask. The rest could have been use for other blends, promotional purposes, etc.

Yes, most whiskies beyond 30-40 start going downhill. But some distilleries with a good pedigree (Dalmore is one of those), if carefully maintained and aged in a good cask, can still taste great at 50. Dalmore is one of those distilleries.

]]> By: bgulien http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10928 bgulien Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:49:23 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10928 Another question: What with the rest of the cask? Probably sold to the blenders. And I don't mean this as a negative, I tasted some very good, old blends. But somehow I remember the fact that whisky will peak at 30-40 years and then steadily degenerate. John, can you enlighten us, because I think you tasted more "old" whiskies then I have. I too had Glen Wonka on my mind when I read this. Put the whole thing in perspective. BTW. my most expensive bottles where a Bruichladdich Blacker Still and a Port Ellen 7th annual release. Both around $300 and that's the limit for me. Another question:
What with the rest of the cask?
Probably sold to the blenders.
And I don’t mean this as a negative, I tasted some very good, old blends.
But somehow I remember the fact that whisky will peak at 30-40 years and then steadily degenerate.
John, can you enlighten us, because I think you tasted more “old” whiskies then I have.
I too had Glen Wonka on my mind when I read this.
Put the whole thing in perspective.
BTW. my most expensive bottles where a Bruichladdich Blacker Still and a Port Ellen 7th annual release.
Both around $300 and that’s the limit for me.

]]> By: John Hansell http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10927 John Hansell Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:43:05 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10927 My friend Kevin over that The Scotch Blog also has some more refreshing news of a <a href="http://inebrio.com/thescotchblog/?p=1434" rel="nofollow">new Dalmore 18 year old</a>: something to take a little less Sirius-ly. :) Serge, over at WhiskyFun already has a <a href="http://www.whiskyfun.com/" rel="nofollow">review of it</a>. My friend Kevin over that The Scotch Blog also has some more refreshing news of a new Dalmore 18 year old: something to take a little less Sirius-ly. :)

Serge, over at WhiskyFun already has a review of it.

]]> By: Sku http://www.whatdoesjohnknow.com/2009/10/05/new-dalmore-sirius-10000bottle/#comment-10926 Sku Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:28:54 +0000 http://blog.maltadvocate.com/?p=2235#comment-10926 Only 12 bottles? So it will be tasted by about the same number of people who listen to Sirius radio then? It is purty though. I don't mind this as much as the Diageo thing. As others have said, this actually appears to be a valuable whiskey. Sure, I'll never taste it, but neither will 99.999% of whiskey fans in the world. And this level of pricing and quantity is such that I doubt it will affect prices across the market; it's more of a vanity product, like the places that make $10,000 cheese burgers with gilded lettuce and foie gras served on a one-of-a-kind plate designed by a famous artist, etc., etc. I wonder if they will even sell all 12 bottles. Only 12 bottles? So it will be tasted by about the same number of people who listen to Sirius radio then? It is purty though. I don’t mind this as much as the Diageo thing. As others have said, this actually appears to be a valuable whiskey. Sure, I’ll never taste it, but neither will 99.999% of whiskey fans in the world. And this level of pricing and quantity is such that I doubt it will affect prices across the market; it’s more of a vanity product, like the places that make $10,000 cheese burgers with gilded lettuce and foie gras served on a one-of-a-kind plate designed by a famous artist, etc., etc.

I wonder if they will even sell all 12 bottles.

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