In addition to being my good friend, Lew has been the Managing Editor of Malt Advocate almost as long as there’s been a Malt Advocate. Lew and I have a lot in common. We both started from the beer world, similar to the way Michael Jackson did. He’s still very much involved in beer. (More than whiskey, actually.)
In addition to his writings and editorial input in Malt Advocate, he’s authored several very nice books on beer, and has a great blog, Seen Through a Glass.
I asked Lew if he would be kind enough to be this month’s guest blogger, and he accepted. He’s got a nice rant on young spirits (rye, bourbon, rum, etc.). Have a read. Tell us what you think. Do you agree with him?
Hi, John’s readers!
John invited me to throw something on his blog – much appreciated; thanks, John – and the first idea I came up with was the one we decided would be a good one, something I’ve been thinking about a lot in the past few years: young spirits. I keep thinking of something Fritz Maytag said at the rye whiskey roundtable Malt Advocate hosted a few years ago:
“Broadly speaking, the whiskey world thinks that older whiskey’s better. It’s like the wine world used to think that older wine was better. And I submit to you that older whiskey is different. Wonderfully different. And many older red wines are wonderfully different. They’re not better, they’re old. And that’s wonderful. But I submit to you that, especially because we have a big shortage of rye whiskey, you are all going to discover the beauty of young rye whiskey.”
It seemed prophetic, and it was, at least for me. I participated in a New York Times rye whiskey tasting panel three years ago, along with David Wondrich, and the difference between the young ryes in the group and the old ones was striking. The older ones were almost austere: dry, spicy, complex. The young ones were alive, grassy, so much so that you could almost feel the sunlight in them.
Young bourbons, even good ones, mostly strike me as hot, spicy, brash, and need ice or a mixer to smooth them out. But a good young rye is grassy, sweet, vibrant, and usually interesting enough to sip. I recently had a pre-release sample of 13 month old rye from Finger Lakes Distilling, and it was sweet, brittle, and water-of-life fresh, with a grassiness and mint character that brought a smile to my lips.
Why are some young whiskeys good and others, well, not so? I’m starting to suspect it’s because some spirits are just naturally suitable for drinking in the first flush of birth. Rum, for instance, is rich and broad-shouldered when aged, but it can be absolutely beguiling when young, too. Gin’s crispness sings with the intensity of being fresh-forged. A good vodka – and they’re out there, you just rarely see them in their unpolluted form – has an Arctic freshness tempered by the dry crease of good bond paper (a strange analogy, maybe, but that’s what my senses tell me).
But young brandy? It makes a good fire-starter. Poteen, mythology aside, is the kind of spirit you only drink when you have to. Grappa, pisco…don’t tell me I’ve “never had the good stuff,” I know I haven’t; no one ever has. Yeesh. Young Scotch whisky? Tons of promise, but subject to feinting spells.
And, as I said, bourbon. Young bourbon will scorch you. I remember the first time I had new make off the third still at Woodford: like a shot of Novocaine. Hot Novocaine. Some’s better than others: I’ve had new make at Maker’s Mark, and it was like a slightly sweet vodka, but not anything that would stand well on its own.
Why? Gin benefits from being flavored vodka: the botanicals are the drink, and the fresher the better. Rum gets more character from its cane or molasses than grain-based spirits get from their starchy source.
But rye? I don’t know. There’s rye in most bourbons, after all. Maybe a preponderance of rye makes a difference. If distillers can keep the price down on young rye, I intend to keep up the research.

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I like this guy. More writing, you!
Dude, I’ve got a ton of it over at my own blog: hit the link at the top of the post. Thanks!
Chap, Lew is a great writer. “Arctic freshness tempered by the dry crease of good bond paper”? Now that’s a vodka I’m willing to try!
Spot on about the validity of drinking young spirits, especially if they’re good.
But I can’t agree with Lew’s sentiment about poitin. Whatever about mythology, good poitin is possibly the epitome of the vibrant young spirit.
Unfortunately, good traditional poitin is also not legally available.
As for young scotch, I concur about the feintiness. But apparently the market disagrees – new make and young whisky from the likes of Kilchoman and Ardbeg have been demanding remarkable prices in recent times.
Still, anything that helps people realise that old doesn’t necessarily equal better is progress, I guess.
Interesting post, Lew.
Thanks, JC. When it comes to young scotch, I’d almost rather have new make than 3 year old. But about poitín…I’ve had way too much — call it poitín, moonshine, mountain dew — that was clearly not made with any care, just something (anything) fermentable run through a still to get burn-head juice. Yeek. I have had good stuff, and should have admitted that, but it’s so damned variable that it’s hard to endorse.
A large part of the ‘mythology’ is that it’s all good stuff, but I can’t help thinking of the old Kentucky joke about the young fellow who was hitchhiking in to Lexington early one morning and got a ride from an old feller in a pickup. Couple miles down the road, the old boy hauls a jug out from behind the seat and offers it: my make, he says, have some. The youngster protests: too early, thanks but no thanks. The oldster gives him the eye, reaches behind the seat again, and the next thing, he’s got a big revolver socketed in the boy’s ear and he says, “I said, have some.” The kid takes a slug and whoops as the shine burns down his throat like acid-drenched steel wool. “Jesus, mister,” he screams, “you can shoot me but that’s awful!” The old guy chuckles, hands him the hogleg, and says, “Yeah, I know. Now hold the gun on me so I can have some!”
That’s a good one, Lew. I have to remember that one.
Don’t know about that vodka…I’m afraid I might get a paper cut on my tongue.
Having had a couple of bottles of Maytag’s Old Potrero, I can see where he’s coming from. There ’s some very young stuff in there. Of course, with all whiskies, there are so many variables. Certainly there are good young single malts.
I find interesting Lew’s comment that he’d rather drink new make Scotch than 3yo. Again, depends on what you start with, and what happens along the way.
Wish to quibble with use of word “feinty”, which folks seem to use a lot to mean (I think) “spirity”. Feints shouldn’t make it into any well-made whisky.
I was very much thinking of Old Potrero, MrTH; I remember my first experience with the first batch, thinking “I could just stand here and smell this for quite a while.” Fascinating.
Guilty on the “feinting spells,” I was just indulging in wordplay!
Good blog, Lew. Hope you will return. And keep researching.
Sadly, I can’t judge the rye new spirit.
I have some samples of scotch new spirit around and generally they have surprised me.
I had some 2 month old Kilchoman and you could taste the promise of the whisky it would become when matured, and it didn’t disappoint as a 3 yo.
Bruichladdich X4 also was a good example of new spirit that would grow up to be an excellent whisky.
In general, I like the new spirit, but it’s hard to come by. If you visit the distilleries, they are reluctant to give you some.
It’s the new kids on the block who sell new spirit to make some money. Kilchoman, St. George and Glenglassaugh have sold new spirit to customers.
Hope to taste some rye spirit someday.
I like the way you think, Lew.
Tried Edradour’s new Ballechin #4, 7 year old, last week. Expected to be overwhelmed by peat. Wasn’t. Expected to by underwhelmed by age. Wasn’t. No six-shooter needed here. Dram good.
Yeah, I was thinking the same as you Mr. TH: I think I would generally rather have a three year old scotch than new make. I’ll use Kilchoman as an example. I had the new make when I toured the distillery a few years back. It showed promise for sure. But I liked the 3+ year old inaugural release much better.
Love “feinting spells”.
Lew – probably you haven’t had a chance to try “the good stuff” as when it comes to pisco cuz the first pisco to come to the US was Chilean. However, there is now Peruvian pisco to be found in the US. In fact, Wine & Spirits magazine just named Macchu Pisco as one of its “Spirits of the Year” and Food & Wine named La Diablada Pisco as top spirit in its 2008 cookbook compilation. Check them out!
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Great gag, Lew.
I know amateur hour at the still leads to some horrific spirit being made all over the world.
I had the dubious privelige of sampling stove-distilled ’spirt’ in Russia once, and definitely would prefer a nice chilled lemon vodka to that battery acid!
I have some Vietnamese moonshine that someone brought home for me, and it smells so strongly of gasoline I’m afraid to even sip it.
But for all the variance, every now and again one comes across some very good young spirit – be it parliamentary whiskey or not – and those spirits deserve credit despite their youth.
So well done again on your cheerleading for younger spirits. I find that a young spirit can often surprise with its quality, whereas the anticipation of enjoying a lengthily-aged dram can sometimes be destroyed when that whiskey proves too woody.
Lew is not cheerleading for young spirits. He is rescuing them from Fritz Maytag and others– people who stand in front distributor’s warehouses, which are literally packed to the ceiling with bottles of whiskey that only years ago would have been considered too young to be worthy of consideration– industry representatives who are intellectually overwhelmed by the intensity of the apologetics that they are been called upon produce– public speakers who are ineluctably forced to *submit* their audiences to an inept blend of tepid avant-gardism and pathetically menacing pleading:
-”I submit to you that older whiskey is different. Wonderfully different.And many older red wines are wonderfully different They’re not better, they’re old.”
-”I submit to you that, especially because we have a big shortage of rye whiskey, you are all going to discover the beauty of young rye whiskey.”
Lew, in contrast actually presents judgements about young spirits. He reports his experiences and distinguishes between the good and the bad. He even brings up gin in a positive light, which I think is great, because I love good gin and I often find myself alone in that.
The differences between what Fritz has to say and what Lew writes record the psychological distance between the industry spokesperson and the genuine enthusiast– the distinction between the rationalization of young whisky and its enjoyment.
Not sure how young WT Rye 101 is, but I assume it’s only 4-6 year since RR Rye is 6+..anyway it’s mighty good stuff.
MrTH: “Feints shouldn’t make it into any well-made whisky.”
Feints are a neccesary part in the flavour profile of any whisky. It’s not just the bad stuff that makes your hair fall out but also carries flavour. But it’s all about concentration. The tricky part of distillation is to stop before the feints take overhand.
JC — Wow, Mekong whisky. Yeah. I don’t know that it’s distilled so much as fractionated and refined! But indeed, it’s the good young spirits that make it worth searching through the scary ones. Just had a sip of the on-market product from Finger Lakes, McKenzie Rye, finished in local port casks — vibrant and tasty. It’s never going to be a 95 on the Malt Advocate scale, but I don’t expect to see many whiskies that young over 90 at all.
Red,
I believe Fritz was being thoroughly pragmatic in his statement, and maybe even a bit cynical. Distillers with warehouses full of young rye whiskey, he’s saying, are going to see the growing demand (and rising prices) and decide that rye doesn’t have to be 6 years old to sell.
And I think there’s something to that; I do believe that rye may mature in a different progression than does bourbon. I know I’ve had more good young ryes than I’ve had good young bourbons; Tuthilltown, for one. Their early young bourbons were quite hot (and it continued to amaze me how well they were received); I tasted some young rye at the distillery last year that was much more friendly.
Linked back and emailed around. Thanks! Time to dive into the Bryson archives…
Bryson archives are entertaining and thought-provoking, especially if you like beer.
Mekong whiskey I didn’t mind so much – though it bears as much resemblance to whiskey as your average yoghurt drink does, being made from rice.
The hooch I have came from a stove in the hills somewhere, and smells like it should be powering their generator.
From an Irish perspective, I’d just like to see more Rye hit these shores full stop, be it young, old or somewhere in the middle.
How awesome is life when Ireland, of all places, is begging for more American rye whiskey? Having started my whiskey drinking life with Pennsylvania rye when it was still being made there, I’m pretty sure I can die happy now.
I think Rye Whiskey is possibly America’s greatest contribution to distillation, actually.
While I like bourbons too, I think of rye like I think of Irish pure potstill – an indigenous, traditional, wholly unique style of whiskey that’s a bit forceful for some tastes but irreplaceable to others.
We’re poorly treated for imported whiskey in Ireland, actually. Even the Diageo classic malts don’t make it here, and we live next door to Scotland and house one of their distilleries!
So you can imagine how little quality rye, or Japanese whiskey, or limited edition single casks of anything surface here.
And even when they do, they’re tragically expensive.
Beautifully said, JC, and I agree with your comparison of Irish pot still and American rye. I’m not a big scotch fan, but I have yet to meet an Irish whiskey that didn’t make friends with me. May fate find us at the same pub at some point in the future!
I’ll drink to that!